TD - Spinoza too is in there. But I was just making a quick point as easily as I knew how without going into lots of detail which people are better of doing themselves if the subject is of interest to them. But if it is not of interest or they do not agree, fair enough.
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The Fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity
by ILoveTTATT2 inever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.
while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.
we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.
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The Fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity
by ILoveTTATT2 inever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.
while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.
we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.
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TD if Kant etc is your thing you are in the same area. I just didn't bother to cover that in the short few lines I wrote.
Crofty its a steer, an overview. If you perceive it as random dots, ok I understand why you might say that. I appreciate that you have your own view and I respect that our views are different.
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The Fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity
by ILoveTTATT2 inever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.
while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.
we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.
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Anna Marina
TD even what you are calling the Englightenment has its roots in something older than Madam de Pompadour and her associated philosphers. It comes from belief in the Golden Age and ideas about Utopia.
But I appreciate you hold a different view. So if you want to investigate further, its up to you. If not. Ok.
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The Fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity
by ILoveTTATT2 inever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.
while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.
we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.
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The Fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity
by ILoveTTATT2 inever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.
while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.
we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.
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TD - Enlightenment started by Voltaire (plus some). Voltaire influence Fredrick the Great, Hilter looked up to Fredrick the Great. Voltaire as a philosopher was supported by the purse of Madam de Pompadour, mistress to the French King. She supported the philosphers because the French Queen was supported by the clergy.
It was all about looking to the doctrines of the East rather than to the doctrines in the Bible and the accounts of the patriarchs. The Orient had no tradition of the patriarchs. The problem as far as Voltaire was concerned was that all knowledge of the patriachs inevitably lead to Jesus Christ, therefore Jewish history should not be taught.
This is the root of anti-semitism. The liberty spoken of is really libertinism. The progress is what Joseph Rutherford heralded as the sign of Christ's presence, like electricity and cream separators. You find a lot of this spoken about by Emerson, Colridge, Wordsworth, Shelley, Byron. The dawning of golden age when things get back to how it was in Athena's day (ie Greek gods - before the flood - Atlantis).
All the false teachings of the WT have their roots in theo sufism, sufism is a mystic form of Islam.
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The Fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity
by ILoveTTATT2 inever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.
while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.
we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.
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The Fundamental difference between Islam and Christianity
by ILoveTTATT2 inever since i came out of the witnesses, i've become very political.. i've heard lots of arguments back and forth for many things.. in the u.s. there is the argument that it is "racist" to want to deny entry to muslims.
while there is freedom of religion, there is also the very valid concern of maintaining democracy and a justice system that is based on modern values.we as exjw's constantly quote the pew center for statistics on jw's such as: they are last place in the us for members of a religion that go to university, and second-last for poverty levels of members of a religion.
we accept those statistics and mention them as proof of how damaging the jw's are.now, let's use the same center for some very scary statistics on islam:http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/22/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/.
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Sufism is a form of Islam that is non-religious. Remind you of anything?
Not being locked into one thing is why Sufism was never about a religion, adds Rabia. “Sufism was never a religion. Islam is a religion.”
http://www.rfi.fr/en/middle-east/20180127-what-sufism-and-why-does-it-bother-some-muslims -
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What a wonderful time---for faders to fade away!
by eyeuse2badub ini’ve been thinking about it for a few weeks and i’m sort of surprised that no one else has introduced this topic!.
what better time than now for a fader to fade?
no meetings, no field service, no elder visits, no assemblies, no convention, and no other bullshit busy work going on.
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Anna Marina
The Zoom meetings can probably track your level of attention (eye movements, blink rate, head position etc). So if I was still in I would definitely not download Zoom. If people are downloading Zoom and getting involved it'll get tougher for them to leave. The ones on the edge will be easily identified and all tactics used to slide away will be noted and dealt with.
I wonder if the next thing will be a 'helpful' personal GPS tracking system to help you maintain social distancing - and enable the elders to see exactly where you are and who you are visiting.
Maybe an electronic shock delivered if you have been on a doorstep too long chatting.
Remake the bicycle so it like a whopping great gyroscope on wheels, stick them in that and they wont even be free to direct their own footsteps or direction of their head. Just program it so it takes them direct to Chelmsford.
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JW covid-19 victims in the Netherlands
by Gorbatchov infrom an excellent and trustfull elder source, i heard today.
that in the netherlands, 440 jw's have covid-19 and 11 jw's have died.. g. .
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Anna Marina
It is sad. Death is an enemy and people are so precious.
But it brings to my mind that promise J F Rutherford made, that was even expressed to me in 1992 - millions now living will never die. What a tragic reality these folk are facing, all the time being misled and exploited by this heartless, unchristian organisation and its agents (the ones who are not fooled but are too cowardly to stand up or too uncaring).
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Alert: Following blindly jw.org these day / RISK
by Gorbatchov inthis night i could not sleep and my thoughts went on and on.
the result:.
i observe that many jw family members follow the instructions of the elders at zoom meetings like they come directly from god.
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Gorbatchov an elder who used to be kind to me, abandoned me to the judicial process and I was thrown out.
But for the many years I knew him as a friend, I can tell you, his best, best, best friend (non JW) was an extremely well known person who wrote much about both Jehovah and the White Goddess, aka Mother Nature.
The wife of this well known man committed suicide very famously and so did his mistress. He wrote about violence and from what I can tell, condoned heroic suicide. He was into celtic/sufi stuff.
So yes, Jim Jones cult via celtic sufis stuff may not be far off.
Someone just said to me 'this place is getting more and more dangerous.'
Note the Watchtower's false beliefs have their roots in Theo sufism. Theosophy. Mafia has the same roots via chap called Mazzini.